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Waiver Bids

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:24 pm
by Achon44
If I put a bid in for a player does the system take into consideration the cap space I will be gaining from the player I drop or do I need to drop the player before I submit the bid?

Example: I have $5,000 in available cap space. I Bid $1,000,000 on Logan Payne and drop Deion Branch and his $4,097,500 salary. If nobody else bids on Payne would I get him or do I need to cut Branch first to free up more cap space?

Re: Waiver Bids

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:34 pm
by braven112
I believe you have to drop him before hand.

Re: Waiver Bids

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:23 am
by yugimoto
Actually, you do not need to drop him (in your example Branch) in order to submit the blind bid.

I run a league where we use a salary cap and blind bidding process as well. We had a similar situation/question a few years back and I asked MFL support about this. They informed me that the system does not "validate" that you are "submitting" a valid blind bid as it cannot factor in changes that may occur from the time you submit the blind bid to the time when the blind bid would clear (e.g., dropping players, trades, etc.).

At the time the blind bid is supposed to execute is when the system will validate whether or not the bid is valid and at that point it does take in account the salary of the person you are dropping (and corresponding salary cap rules) to determine if you bid can be executed (i.e., it is a valid bid).

So your example would work just fine since you would be dropping Branch as part of your blind bid and getting back half his salary (~$2MM) and your bid for Payne for $1MM, you would have a valid bid to be executed.

Hope that helps.

Re: Waiver Bids

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 10:16 am
by braven112
The validating does take place at the time the bid is executed, yugimoto does your league have a soft cap or a hard cap?

I sent an email to support to verify how it works.

Re: Waiver Bids

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:14 am
by yugimoto
braven112 wrote:The validating does take place at the time the bid is executed, yugimoto does your league have a soft cap or a hard cap?

I sent an email to support to verify how it works.
We have a hard salary cap. And yes that is what I said the validation occurs when the bid is "executed" - in the case of this league here - Saturday morning. Validation does not occur when the bid is initially "submitted".

Re: Waiver Bids

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:21 am
by yugimoto
By the way I just did a test where I submitted the following blind bid:

Add: St. Louis Defense for $5MM and Drop Tom Brady.

The system let me submit and save this blind bid.

Of course I have just as quickly removed that blind bid as well :)

Re: Waiver Bids

Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:22 pm
by braven112
yugimoto wrote:By the way I just did a test where I submitted the following blind bid:

Add: St. Louis Defense for $5MM and Drop Tom Brady.

The system let me submit and save this blind bid.

Of course I have just as quickly removed that blind bid as well :)
Yeah that portion makes sense I'm just not sure the MFL system is "smart enough" to execute the waiver, apply the cap penalty for our specific league and then ensure their is enough available cap room to add the player, I know we had this conversation when we first started the league and at that time it didn't work that way. If it does now then that is awesome! It totally makes more sense to make a bid before you drop a player when you can't be sure you'll even get him.