Player Tag rules

[braven112]

Player Tags

* Each team will be have three "Tags" to sign back their own Free Agents (FA). The Three tags are; Franchise Player Tag (FP), Transition Player Tag (TP) and Restricted Free Agent Tag (RFA).
* February 15th start of the new season.
* February 15th -22nd Tagging Period
* February 22nd-26th teams may make offers to tagged players.
* March 1st -7th teams must match any offer on a tagged player, or lose the player.

* The compensatory draft picks must be the original draft picks of the team that signed the tagged player.
* Teams holding the rights to their FP will have until March 1st to match the contract of the highest bidder.

* Franchise Player - each owner may designate 1 player whose contract with the team has expired. A FP will be tendered a one year contract at the average of the top five salaries at his position or a 20% salary increase, whichever is greater. A FP may be offered a contract (salary and years) by any team. His original team has the right to match the highest offer. If the original team declines to match the offer, they will receive the 1st and 2nd round draft choice as compensation.

* Transiton Player - each owner may designate 1 player whose contract with the team has expired. A TP will be tendered a one year contract at the average of the top ten salaries at his position or a 20% salary increase, whichever is greater. A TP may be offered a contract (salary and years) by any team. His original team has the right to match the highest offer. If the original team declines to match the offer, they will receive the 1st round draft choice as compensation.

* Restricted Free Agent - each owner may designate 1 player whose contract with the team has expired. A RFA will be tendered a one year contract at the average of the top fifteen salaries at his position or a 20% salary increase, whichever is greater. A RFA may be offered a contract (salary and years) by any team. His original team has the right to match the highest offer. If the original team declines to match the offer, they will receive the 2nd round draft choice as compensation.

* Any player that was tagged by their original team and not pursued by another team, will recieve a one year contract for the tender amount.
* Owenrs can not bid on multiple tagged that will exceed what they have to give for compensation. For example, Team A has all of their natural draft picks, they can bid on one FP (1st&2nd draft picks) or they can bid on one TP (1st round draft pick) and one UFA (2nd round draft pick).

* The league message board will be the only place you can bid on tagged players.
* If a team tags a guy at the 1 year tender for 6 million, then a team can place a higher bid 2 ways; either a higher salary or more years on the contract. So a team could bid 1 years at 6.025 million. A second team could bid 4 year at 6.025, then they would be the highest bid. The final contract offer could be 1 year at 6.05 million.

[braven112]

Post the player(s) that you would like tagged in a separate thread and we'll use that thread to offer new contracts and potentially match the contracts.

[bonscott]

Player Tags

* Deadline for announcing tagged players is Feb 15th
* Tagged players can be offered a contract, salary and length by any team with the appropriate draft compensation, between Feb 15th and Feb 22nd.

Actually, these dates were clarified to the following I believe (according to the home page). Correct?

* February 15th start of the new season.
* February 15th -22nd Tagging Period
* February 22nd-26th teams may make offers to tagged players.
* March 1st -7th teams must match any offer on a tagged player, or lose the player.

So I believe this means that any contract 1 players still on our team as of Feb 15th, we have until the 22nd to tag them if we wish. On the 22nd any contract 1 players not tagged will be dropped from our team by the commish.
Starting the 22nd thru the 26th other teams can bid on tagged players and then first week of March teams can match those bids if they choose.

Then then commish has a week to clean everything up in prep for the FA offseason bidding.

At least that is my understanding.

[Achon44]

Commish,

Will you be updating our rosters on the 15th to reflect 2008 salaries and contracts?

[braven112]

Yes to all questions.

[braven112]

Lets use this as our template for tagging players: Post what type of tag you are using, then the 07 salary, finally post what their 08 salary will be (what it will cost to tag them, either the 07 salary * 120% or the tag salary). Put that in parenthesis.

Restricted FA: PK, Kris Brown, HOU -
07 Salary: 425k
08 Tagged Salary: $531,667 (Top 15 avg)


You can copy the format below and tweak it for your tagged players.

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[b]Restricted FA:[/b] PK, Kris Brown, HOU - 
[b]07 Salary:[/b] 425k
[b]08 Tagged Salary:[/b] $531,667 (Top 15 avg) 

[yugimoto]

When bidding on tagged players - Is there a minimum bid increment you must offer if you decide to offer a higher salary versus extended contract years?

[Achon44]

When bidding on tagged players - Is there a minimum bid increment you must offer if you decide to offer a higher salary versus extended contract years?

If there is I hope it's not too high.

[braven112]

When bidding on tagged players - Is there a minimum bid increment you must offer if you decide to offer a higher salary versus extended contract years?

Not officially, but the rule for the auction is that they must be in increments of 25k. Its kind of a grey area. I would think the bids should be at minimum in increments of 1k. Anyone disagree with that or have an opinion.

[bonscott]

When bidding on tagged players - Is there a minimum bid increment you must offer if you decide to offer a higher salary versus extended contract years?

Not officially, but the rule for the auction is that they must be in increments of 25k. Its kind of a grey area. I would think the bids should be at minimum in increments of 1k. Anyone disagree with that or have an opinion.

I think it should be minimum of 25k just like we have for everything else in terms of salary. I think just 1K is kinda cheap and bogus way to snipe a player and not pay much. Not that 25K is a whole lot but it is the standard we use for everything else, I would assume the same would be used here.

But I can go with whatever is decided.

[Achon44]

I like 25K as well.

[braven112]

When bidding on tagged players - Is there a minimum bid increment you must offer if you decide to offer a higher salary versus extended contract years?

Not officially, but the rule for the auction is that they must be in increments of 25k. Its kind of a grey area. I would think the bids should be at minimum in increments of 1k. Anyone disagree with that or have an opinion.

I think it should be minimum of 25k just like we have for everything else in terms of salary. I think just 1K is kinda cheap and bogus way to snipe a player and not pay much. Not that 25K is a whole lot but it is the standard we use for everything else, I would assume the same would be used here.

But I can go with whatever is decided.

I agree, if you don't have any rule in place then we could outbid someone by $1 which would be pretty lame. So we'll go 25k and stay consistent.

[yugimoto]

I am agreeable to that - I like the consistency - easier to keep track.

BTW - how do you figure out between offering additional contract years and / or an increase salary during the bidding process which is the higher offer or eventually the winning bid. I saw the example in the constitution and in the above post but I am not sure I am getting it.

Hate to ask this but could you post an longer example based upon the $25K increase decision just made to help educate me better. Sorry

[braven112]

Hmm....

Basically either an increase in salary and/or an increase in years is acceptable.

Player A is tagged for 1.0 million by team 1
Team 2 can be bid on for 1.025 million and a 1 year contract
Team 3 can bid on Player A for 1.025 million and a 2 year contract
Team 2 can then place a higher bid of 1.05 million and a 1 year contract
Team 3 can then place a higher bid of 1.75 and a 2 year contract
Team 2 can then bid 2.0 million and a 1 year contract.
Team 3 could then bid 2.025 million and a 5 year contract
Team 2 can then bid 2.05 million and a 1 year contract.
Team 3 can then bid 2.05 million and a 2 year contract.
Team 2 can then bid 2.05 million and a 3 year contract.
Team 3 can then bid 2.05 million and a 4 year contract.
Team 2 can then bid 2.05 million and a 5 year contract.



Is that more clear?

[LV Elite]

Hmm....

Basically either an increase in salary and/or an increase in years is acceptable.

Player A is tagged for 1.0 million by team 1
Team 2 can be bid on for 1.025 million and a 1 year contract
Team 3 can bid on Player A for 1.025 million and a 2 year contract
Team 2 can then place a higher bid of 1.05 million and a 1 year contract
Team 3 can then place a higher bid of 1.75 and a 2 year contract
Team 2 can then bid 2.0 million and a 1 year contract.
Team 3 could then bid 2.025 million and a 5 year contract


Is that more clear?

So basically the bottomline is.... the highest $$$ amount will win out, years do not matter unless two bids are exact same $$$ amount? Am I reading that right?

[braven112]

So basically the bottomline is.... the highest $$$ amount will win out, years do not matter unless two bids are exact same $$$ amount? Am I reading that right?

Kind of, but that is not the conclusion I would draw. I added even more examples so it should be even more clear.

[LV Elite]

Hmm....

Basically either an increase in salary and/or an increase in years is acceptable.

Player A is tagged for 1.0 million by team 1
Team 2 can be bid on for 1.025 million and a 1 year contract
Team 3 can bid on Player A for 1.025 million and a 2 year contract
Team 2 can then place a higher bid of 1.05 million and a 1 year contract
Team 3 can then place a higher bid of 1.75 and a 2 year contract
Team 2 can then bid 2.0 million and a 1 year contract.
Team 3 could then bid 2.025 million and a 5 year contract
Team 2 can then bid 2.05 million and a 1 year contract.
Team 3 can then bid 2.05 million and a 2 year contract.
Team 2 can then bid 2.05 million and a 3 year contract.
Team 3 can then bid 2.05 million and a 4 year contract.
Team 2 can then bid 2.05 million and a 5 year contract.



Is that more clear?

My ...

In the example above a team raised the value from 2.025M to 2.05M, but lowered the years from 5 to 1. Now let's say the bid was at 2.025M for 2 years. Would a another team then be able to bid 1.75M for 3 years and because they raised the years they take over as high bidder?

IMO I don't think the years of the contract should be able to be lowered once they've been raised. If a team bids 2M @ 3 years any future bids should have to be at least @ 3 years and once a bid reaches 5 years any future bids should need to be @ 5 years.

I am still reading Bravens example as the highest $$$ amount per year will win the player and not necassarly the years on the contract. Is that right? It cant be the TOTAL $$$ amount with years taken into account because your examples of Team 2 taken over the bidded player for 2.50 for 1 year after the previous bid was 2.025 for 5 years won out. Hope that makes sense, the way I am interperating it is simply the highest $$$ amount per year no matter the contract length will win the player.

[braven112]

To avoid confusion, lets try to leave the new ideas to the new ideas forum.

[Achon44]

To avoid confusion, lets try to leave the new ideas to the new ideas forum.

I don't see this as much as a new idea as it is something we really need to clear up before free agency starts.

[braven112]

To avoid confusion, lets try to leave the new ideas to the new ideas forum.

I don't see this as much as a new idea as it is something we really need to clear up before free agency starts.

The constitution state exactly how it will work for this season and the example I gave above is how the rule is interpreted. If you bid more money or a longer contract you'll be the new high bidder. You can offer a shorter contract if you are offering more money.

[Achon44]

To avoid confusion, lets try to leave the new ideas to the new ideas forum.

I don't see this as much as a new idea as it is something we really need to clear up before free agency starts.

The constitution state exactly how it will work for this season and the example I gave above is how the rule is interpreted. If you bid more money or a longer contract you'll be the new high bidder. You can offer a shorter contract if you are offering more money.

Got it. I guess it just doesn't make sense to me why if this is a "Dynasty League" we would award a player to a team for less contract years once a team has raised the contract years on a previous bid just because there is more money bid. IMO it really diminishes the importance of contract years and more importantly a contract year cap.

[braven112]

For this to me be effective shouldn't the bid be blind? Or is it blind and I haven't studied my constitution

I think for some the confusion lies here. It is NOT blind its completly open. If someone offers a tag on a player everyone in the league will know and have an oppurtunity to offer a "better" contract.

What I'll do is take the "best" contract as of 8:59pm PST (Feb 22nd I'm going of memory) and that will be the wining bid. The timestamp on the message board will confirm when a bid was placed, that part should be pretty cut and dry.

The original team then has until March 1st at 8:59pm to match that offer. They must post on the message board if they wish to match the "offer".


("better" and "best" can be up for debate, but in terms of this discusion we'll go straight off the constituion)

[Achon44]

For this to me be effective shouldn't the bid be blind? Or is it blind and I haven't studied my constitution

I think for some the confusion lies here. It is NOT blind its completly open. If someone offers a tag on a player everyone in the league will know and have an oppurtunity to offer a "better" contract.

What I'll do is take the "best" contract as of 11:59 PST (Feb 22nd I'm going of memory) and that will be the wining bid. The timestamp on the message board will confirm when a bid was placed, that part should be pretty cut and dry.
The original team then has until March 1st at 11:59pm to match that offer. They must post on the message board if they wish to match the "offer".


("better" and "best" can be up for debate, but in terms of this discusion we'll go straight off the constituion)

Would it be possible to choose a time that's a little friendlier to both sides of the country?

[braven112]

For this to me be effective shouldn't the bid be blind? Or is it blind and I haven't studied my constitution

I think for some the confusion lies here. It is NOT blind its completly open. If someone offers a tag on a player everyone in the league will know and have an oppurtunity to offer a "better" contract.

What I'll do is take the "best" contract as of 11:59 PST (Feb 22nd I'm going of memory) and that will be the wining bid. The timestamp on the message board will confirm when a bid was placed, that part should be pretty cut and dry.
The original team then has until March 1st at 11:59pm to match that offer. They must post on the message board if they wish to match the "offer".


("better" and "best" can be up for debate, but in terms of this discusion we'll go straight off the constituion)

Would it be possible to choose a time that's a little friendlier to both sides of the country?

Yeah thats fine, I'll change it to 8:59pm Pacific and 11:59pm Eastern

[Achon44]